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Nice to learn about this blog. It will be usefull to many adiyars and spiritual aspirants like me.
June 9th, 2008 at 5:31 pmOf all the various upanyasams/Kalakshepams of Our respected Swamy Sri U.ve.Krishnan avl, which we enjoyed was that,the most important and spelbounding one was VARADARAJASTHAVAM which he presented in Kanchipuram. We could not still forget the divinity and in fact by his discriptive explanations on the slogas of Sri Kooraththazhvan, he has brought the Divya thampathigal Lord Sri Perunthevi Nachiar and Sri varadarajar Swamy in our mind and play in the cradle of our heart. Eventhough adiyen attended for a direct discourse at Kanchi but still I enjoyed more by listening to the 4 CDs (gifted to us) with the feeling as if I am listening for the first time.Such is the speciality of his lecture. The marginal utility in the enjoyment of his lecture will not at all diminish unlike the material enjoyment we feel the diminishing utility. One should not miss to buy the CD and listen to that divine lecture and oobtain sacred anugram of Lord Sri Varadarajaswamy of Kanchi. Adiyen still wandering for more and more words to discribe about Swamy’s versatality.
Dhasan
June 9th, 2008 at 9:36 pmNamaskaram,
I am really very very happy to see such a blog for a great service. Seeing our Swamin itself, Reminds me of all our poorva-acharya’s. Now this techology helps me to keep in touch with all thondar kuzham. For which i feel, i am gifted.
Adiyen, Dasan
June 10th, 2008 at 2:22 pmwith reference to #2, I would also like to share that I enjoyed the Kamba Ramayanam and got deeply immersed in the nectar of Bhagavad Geeta. Never before have I read or listened to any discourse that so easily makes such difficult concepts understandable…
After one listens to Ramayana by Sri Swamy, the next logical step is the Geeta and adoptation of Saranagathi.
Dasan
Sriram
June 11th, 2008 at 1:54 pmYes. I too agree to Mr.Sriram. The first upanyasam I listened (and enjoyed as well) at the first darshan of Swamy in the BAGAVATH GITA DISCOURSE during the year 2005 ,Margazhi month at Triplicane which I will never forget and the divinity I felt in that darshan.Just at random I wanted to attened to that lecture but after seeing him some sacred feeling cropped up in my mind which led me to attend to the whole 30 days lecture and till now I mostly never used to miss his lecture.Not only me but nobody should miss his discourse. Sometimes we used to wonder he might be an other amsam of Srimath Ramanujar or Lord Kannan or Srimath Nammazhwar. The discourse comes like a varshini. In fact, the very title “Bala Vagamrutha varshini ” rewarded to Swamy is only for the sake of Adiyar’s satisfaction No title can fulfil his versatality and dedicated and committed personality in his divine service to the humanity. Any title for that matter if garlanded with swamy will get more power and credit and not vice versa.
Dhasan.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:39 pmNot a day passes - always in the Morning - without listening to Swamy Sri U.Ve.Velukudi Krishnan swamy’s upanyasams on Bhagavat Gita, Thiruppavai and Vishnu Sahasranamam. Lord Krishna has chosen Swamy as the representative of all “Purvacharyas” for us to be blessed with and my humble pranams to him. Swamy’s service is beyond words and I think that he is “Kaliyuga Azhwar” taken “Avathar” to explain the greatness of all our Purvacharyas and spread their message.
June 13th, 2008 at 4:30 pmRecently Sh.U.Ve.Velukkudi krishnan swamigal concluded the Bhagwath githa-18th Chapter on 15th June 08. It was a wonderfuld experiance to have the discourse. we expect more and more from the Swamigal at Bangalore. I reside in Bangalore since 1993 and enrolled as a member of the trust recently. I wish to enrol as many people as I can shortly. Our family members have got lots of interest in listining to the discourses o Sh.U.Ve.Velukkudi Krishnan Swamigal. we have the CD collecation like, Alwargalum thiruvengadamum, sriranga mahatmiyam, srigunaratna kosam, Gadhyatrayam, paratvadi panchagam, sri bhagavatham. We sould be collecting all the required CDs in the coming future. Sh.U.Ve.Velukkudi Krishnan swamigal is nothing but the Krishna’s maru avataram who impart the Athiga neri in Sri Vaishnavas. I am certain that his holy services are utilised in a broad manner by the Sri vaishnavas.
June 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pmI agree 100% about swamiji I take him to be my guru. and am trying to bring into my life and follow atleast a little of what he says when he visits our houses every morning at 6.30.
June 18th, 2008 at 12:58 pmi am learning yoga philosophy as well as practice and other related subjects to become a theraupeutic yoga teacher from a reputed institution.
i have a query and i would be grateful if anybody would help me. Sukham and duhkham happens to purusa or prakrti? who is suffering or happy? purusa or prakrti? i understand that both go hand in hand and one cannot function without other.since vasanas are carried over, in that sense one could say purusa. but purusa is unaffected by anything.so do they feel the pain or suffering or happiness?
dasan
I have great pleasure in visiting this website and i am very grateful to be born in this world with persons like sri velukudi Krishnan.
I have no more words to describe the way that he presents the slogas everyday.
I thank sriman narayana for this wonderful opportunity to be in this world and hear the greatness of him.
Let the seva be continued with the Almighty’s wish
June 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pmI chanced upon your site and this blog while I was Googling your name. My parents live in India and they regularly attend your discourses in Madras, and subscribe to your CDs. They also had the good fortune to go on the Krishna Divyadesham tour that you organized.
They are now visiting me and my sister’s family here in California. They play your discourses all the time here.
Listening to these discourses taught me so many things that I was totally ignorant about. If it were not for your renderings I would have forever been oblivious to the trmendous wealth and richness of our SriVaishnava tradition. Up until now, I never made any sincere effort to explore my religion taking it at face value. I thank you for the great service you are doing. Now, not a day passes without listening to one of your discourses. Your discourses give me company everyday when I commute to work - its the only thing that I listen to these days - no NPR (National Public Radio), no music, nothing else, not even news, just your rich discourses. Every time I listen to them I discover new things that I somehow missed out earlier. I even go to sleep listening to your discourses with the earplugs still on. Thanks for everything.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:20 pmTo answer your question -
Prakrti - It’s a Achit tattvam and does not feel anything. Bhagavan uses this for creation/destrution. It undergoes Swarupa and Swabhava Vikara.
Purusha - By referring atma it undergoes Swabhava Vikara only during the time it’s tied with prakrti. During this time, it feels the goods/bads of body because of Ahankara and Mamakara. However, Atma by nature is of Gnana Maya, Ananda Maya etc. Upon getting released from karma, it realizes it’s nature.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:13 pmI would like to attend week end classes on learning Bhagavat Geetha and Vedas. Any suggestion or help on where they are conducted in Chennai ? Thanks and Pranams.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:52 amI am an Iyengar and I currently live in US.
We are planning to come to India next year permanently.
I was raised by a simple middle class parents (iyengars), who performed daily niyamas.
My parents took care of my patty till her old age and lived an example life taking care of all the family members (brother, sister and their kids) within their means. But since we always had the confusion in our family about our acharyan, none of them had an opportunity to perform samasrayanam and my parents were never staunch about those things.
My inlaws (strongly believe in Vaishnavite niyamams) insist that me and my husband should get samasrayanam. My husband is the only son and my inlaws
believe that after their death, the karmas my husband will perform will not yield fullest satisfaction unless we do samasrayanam.
My husband is right now clueless and he has nothing for or against it. I have no second thoughts about doing anything to make my aged inlaws happy. But I am not convinced of the samasrayanam part. Not that I am scared of it. But, i believe that a person should perform niyamams with fullest belief and dedication. I dont want to do anything without knowing the reason behind it.
I would feel myself like an atheist goin to the temple with his shoes on.
i was raised by my parents with practical beliefs .
My mother never discriminated anybody by their caste, class or creed. She had a simple living and high thinking. My father was like the kaliyuga karnan who would give money/materials to other people even without the knowledge of mother(not that my mother would object).
Do you think my mother/father didn’t attain moksha because they dint perform samasrayanam? does god approve us becoz of the ritual we perform or by our thoughts and actions?
I understand that samasrayanam is an act (of a vishnu devotee) to prove that he is ready to offer/sacrifice himself and his body to go through anykind of test(physically). Frankly, are we that generous to control our mind and body?
I need a convincing answer.
This is just one voice among many.
thanks
July 15th, 2008 at 7:49 pmvidya.
I AM VAISNAVA GUJARATI FROM CHENNAI I HEAR EVERYDAY
MORNINIG 6.30 FROM SWAMY KRISHAN GITA, IT WAKE’S THE SOUL AND MAKE PURIFYING THE SIN’S COMMITTED FROM 84 LAKHS OF JANMA .
THANKS
July 16th, 2008 at 8:19 amSRINATH G SHAH
Hello Smt. Vidya Ramanujam
I was also ignorant of our Sat Sampradaya until very recently. I am still learning.
Your in laws seem to be absolutely right here. If you really believe in the concept of Moksha as defined by our Acharyas, you should also accept that a Sri Vaishnava can only obtain Moksha by following the long chain established by the same Acharyas who gave you the concept. As far as I am aware, in this Kali Yuga, it is only through Samasrayanam and Bharanyaasam through a qualified Acharya that a Sri Vaishnava can obtain Moksha.
Please listen to both these links completely and make up your mind for yourself.
http://www.ibiblio.org/ramanuja/thiruppavai/pasuram/032-10-NOTTRU-02.mp3
http://www.ibiblio.org/ramanuja/thiruppavai/pasuram/033-10-NOTTRU-03.mp3
Also, in addition to this, according to Srimad Vedanta Desika, a Vadakalai like me, has only five words, not six. Vadakalais do not have ‘Anthima Smruthi Varjanam’ unless I keep re-affirming the Ashtakshara chant ‘Om Namo Narayanaya’ and the Dvaya Mantra chant ‘Sriman Narayana Charanau Saranam Prapadye, Srimate Narayanaya Namaha’ at the time of my death.
I am still learning too, so if someone can correct any mistakes here, I would be grateful.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:08 pmHow there is a difference for Vadakalai evn in what Sriman Ramanujar has said- Anthima virajam - does it mean Vedanda Desikan differs with his Acarya paramparai.Is there is any site which gives details for Vadakalai to know such details?
July 17th, 2008 at 5:24 amAdiyen - Krishnadasan (from Pune)
My 12 year old son does
July 17th, 2008 at 11:05 amSandhya, Madhya and Sayam Sandaya on a regular basis. He knows by-heart
- Amalanadipiran
- Kanninum siruthambu
- Pallandu
- Thirupavai
and
- Sahasranama (partially)
But he is saying, he does all these because I am telling him to do this. He does without any involvement. I am not in a position to explain him the benefits of these. Can someone kindly help me please.
Hello Sri Ranganathan
That’s what one would expect.
Apparently, the six words were not given by Sri Bhagavad Ramanujacharya. They were given by Sri Devanadha Perumal to Sri Tirukkachi Nambigal.
Unfortunately, there isn’t one, but innumerable places where I have encountered multiple differences between these two sub-sects in my recent searches - things I wasn’t aware of until very recently. All I knew a few days ago was the difference in the Thiruman style - U and Y.
http://www.bhagavadgitausa.com/sri_vaisnava_theological_difference.htm
The book “Sri Vaishnavism - A Concise Study” by Sri. M.K.Srinivasan (on page 52 under General) in Chapter IX (pp 47-52)
Also Google for:
July 17th, 2008 at 11:14 amhttp://www.google.com/search?q=Vadakalai+Thenkalai+differences&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Once again, this is an extension to my reply to Sri. Ranganathan’s query on antimasmarana:
If there are people on this list who understand Sanskrit (and can read the verse below which is devoid of the appropriate accented characters), some of the differences are brought out in the following verse according to the book “Sri Vaishnavism - A Concise Study” by Sri. M.K.Srinivasan (on page 52 under General) in Chapter IX (pp 47-52)
“bhedah svamikrpaphalanyagatisu Srivyaptyupayatvayos tadvatsalyadayanirukticacasam nyase ca tatkartaraih,
July 17th, 2008 at 11:59 amdharmatyagavirodhayoh svavihite nyasangahetutvayoh
prayascittavidhau tadiyabhajane anuvyaptikaivalyayoh”.
Hello Sri.R. Krishnan
That is really impressive.
On Vishnu Sahasranamam:
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy in some of the discourses that I have listened to, explains this beautifully. He says, the property of fire is to burn anything that it comes in contact with. It does not distinguish between what it burns. Similarly, the property of Vishnu Sahasranamam is to do good to whoever recites or even listens to it. Vishnu Sahasranamam does not distinguish between people who understand its meaning, or people who recite it without knowing its meaning. Its property is to do good to whoever chants, or even listens to it.
On Sandhyavandana:
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy explains at length that even though performing Sandhyavandanam is not going to bring you any good, if you stop doing it, you will start accumulating Bhagawan’s displeasure. Certain duties or karmas are prescribed in the Shastras. So these are duties that have to be performed whether you like it or not as prescribed in the Shastras.
Apparently, The Lord himself says in the Gita that the Vedas and Smritis are His own command. So, anybody who violates His command, by not doing these prescribed duties, will earn His displeasure. Sandhyavandana and other such prescribed duties are not accessories to Prapathi. However, they are duties prescribed in the Vedas and Sastras and because of that, they should be performed without fail throughout one’s life.
July 17th, 2008 at 1:57 pmHello Sri.R.Krishnan
A while back, I came across a site that has the meaning of each and every word, including commentaries on the Vishnu Sahasranama. Here’s the link to whoever is interested.
July 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pmhttp://www.ecse.rpi.edu/Homepages/shivkuma/personal/music/vishnu-sahasranamam-meanings.htm
Dear Bhagavatha - Vidya Ramanujam
I would like to give few examples to give clarity that our sastras are far advanced than latest science & our ancestors skill levels are far beyond our comprehension:
a. Using advanced science mechanism nowadays, we are predicting Solar/Lunar eclipses a day in advance wherein Bhagavathas who writes Panchangam (for 1000s of yrs) predicts the same at the start of the Year. So, our knowledge is far advanced than modern science.
b. The concept of Jiva different from the body is well explained in sastras. It can very well be proved using proper logical analysis. 1) If all the external organs are removed, feeling of “I” remains the same which means all external organs are not “I”. 2) Even mentally challenged persons, also have a feel of “I” . So, brain is also not. 3) Our Prana is not “I” because we are able to control (stop/breath) it using “I”. Science is yet to find a way here.
There are so many reasons to justify Saranagathi:
1. Vedas (Upanishads) which are Aanadhi(ageless) prescribes two paths to attain Moksha. a)Bhakthi Yoga - is something where you strive and achieve (Sadyopaya). b) Saranagathi/Baranyasam. Saranagathi is a not a new born concept, it’s ageless. In fact, Nyasam is defined as the highest of all Yogas. Saranagathi is praying the god & make him stand in the place of Bhakthi and give the fruit (Siddopaya).
2. Krishna in Bhagavad Gita prescribes Bhakthi Yoga & Saranagathi as two means of moksha. One cannot perform bhakthi yoga directly and needs to finish the first level Karma Yoga or Gnana Yoga. Upon attaining some perfection only, he can start bhakthi yoga. Bhakthi is defined as “continuous meditation on god without any disturbance - as how oil flows”. This is very difficult to practice in Kaliyuga.
3. Our acharyas refer Ramayana as a Saranagathi Kavyam as there so many from beginning to end.
It’s really important for us to understand the rule of GAME created by Bhagavan. Once we understand & adher to the rules, we WIN the game.
4. Saranagathi creates a BONDAGE between this soul and swami Ramanuja. Once we know about our Swami, we can easily understand how easy is to attain moksham.
Greatness of Swami Ramanuja:
His greatness is far beyond our words…
a. Swami is the avatara of adisesha. He has come down from Srivaikunta to uplift us.
b. Namperumal has given both the vibuthis (nithya & leela) to Swami Ramanujar. That’s why he has been named as “Udayavar”.
c. NammAlwar has given Swami Ramanuja’s vigraham to Madhurakavi Alwar and referred him as “Bhavishyad Acharyar” at the beginning of kali. Even today, you can have darshan of swami’s vigraham at Thirukurungudi.
d. Kanchi Deva Perumal has given 6 words to Swami thro Thirukkachi Nambi out of which one is “Upayeshu Prapathisyat - means Saranagathi is the way for moksha”
e. During swami’s time on Boologa, he has given a letter for moksha to the milk supplying women for his ashram. Tirupathi perumal has given her direct moksham.
f. Important point to note “Swami Ramanuja has done Saranagathi to Namperumal using Saranagathi Gadyam”. Namperumal & Thayaar speaks to him and says Moksham is given to You & Your Sambandhis.
There are so many instances to site from Swami’s Life. Swami has carefully planned to help the future by nominating 74 acharyas. Their descendants (Guru parampara) is still continuing & for ever. It’s important for us to attain their lotus feet and perform Saranagathi. Belief is very important as it’s one of the angas in saranagathi “Maha Vishwasa Pooravakam”.
Adiyen
July 18th, 2008 at 9:50 pmRamanuja Dasan - Srinivasa Raghavan
Dear Bhagavatha - Suresh Raj Gopalan
Six commandments from Deva Perumal is applicable for both the sects which implies Antima Smrithi Varganam is for all saranagathas (both vadagalai and thengalai). The difference is on the angas of prapatti. Both of us have 5 angas a. Aanukulyesya Sankalpam b. Praathikulyesya Varjanam c. Rakshishyathiti Vishvasam d. Gopthrutva Varnam e. Karpanyam. One more angam for thengalai is Aatma Nikshepam.
July 20th, 2008 at 9:49 pmDear Bhagavatha - Krishnan
Adiyen is happy to see that you have come up with a right question at a right time which every parent needs to do bring up a Srivaishnavite. In many cases, parents don’t give convincing answers or ignore these Q which makes the child loose interest on our traditional values.
We can give surfacing answers like Good health, prosperity, memory power etc which are true but is not sufficient. Additionally, it’s important to clarify these doubts in depth. Nowadays, children have sharp brilliance and quick grasping power. Would like to suggest few options which can be tried:
1. Make him understand the concept of Karma by explaining the differences in society starting plant, animals, humans - rich, poor, healthy, diseased etc. To burn karmas, he should do everything with interest.
2. There are 9 relations between jivatma and paramatma out of which a) Father & Son b) Friend are important in this context. When he does something to his father/friend, it should be with love and affection.
3. Tell him the story of Ramayana & Mahabaratha by combining in depth meanings in it. Make him listen to swamy cd’s on these areas. Ask for doubts and clarify regularly.
4. It’s important to share the story of our Alwars & Purvacharyas Swami Nammalwar, Ramanujar, Koorathalwan etc.
5. Slowly educate him on the differences between body and the soul which means less importance to be given to the body.
6. We should be doing everything as kaimkaryam that will take this soul closer to paramatma.
7. If there are any vaishnavite classes/schools available, he can spend time in weekends.
8. Make him participate in temple festivals and develop his interest on Archa Vigrahams.
9. Feed him with basic books on vaishnavism.
Adiyen
July 20th, 2008 at 10:30 pmRamanuja Dasan
Dear Sri. Srinivasa Raghavan
Thanks a lot for the clarification.
I am still trying to learn all the technical terms and their associated meanings.
After I saw your post, I am now continuing my search on what these Angas mean, and I came across this.
Here’s what I looked up just now and thought I’d mention it for other newbies like me who are still trying to learn all this:
http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/dec2001/0075.html
The five angas of prapatti are:
1. Anukoolya sankalpam (determination to act /do what pleases the Lord)
2. prAthikoolya varjanam (refrain from acts that displease and cause displeasure for the Lord)
3. KaarpaNyam (feeling of humility arising from helplessness in resorting to other means of salvation (Bhakti Yogam))
4. MahAviswAsam (absolute, unshakeable faith in Lord as the SOLE PROTECTOR)
5. Goptrtva varaNam- making a request to the Lord seeking his protection)
Athma nikshEpam - entrusting the burden of protection of the individual self to the care of the Lord- is considered to be the angi, while the five are called angas. Athma nikshepam- act of self surrender is included and is called as six fold discipline in Ahirbudhnya smahithA, while Lakshmi Tanthra while defining Athma nikshepam, (also known as Saranagathi or nyAsam) speaks of five components (nyAsa pnachAnga samyutha). There is however no conflict between the two. In Ahirbudhnya samhitha Athmanikshepam is included with the five; while Lakshmi thanthram separately mentions it.
July 21st, 2008 at 3:43 amJust so newbies do not end up with the same confusion between the Six Commandments (words) and the 5+1 Angas, I am listing the Six Commanments as given by Sri Deva Perumal To Sri Thirukkachi Nambigal here:
The Basic Six Words that define Visishta-Advaita according to Brahmam:
1.Ahameva Paramtatvam – Sriman Narayan is the Supreme-most God/ Supreme-most Being – the Supreme-most Principle/Supreme-most Truth.
July 21st, 2008 at 5:14 am2.Darishanam Bedayevacha – Individual jeevathmas (souls) are different from Sriman Narayana – the Brahmam and the Paramatma, but are a part of the Brahmam. Sriman Nayana and souls are different (Bheda).
3.Upayayeshu Prapathischaath – Prapatti (surrender) is the means to attain salvation. By faith and surrender alone shall anyone reach Sriman Naraya, their only salvation.
4.Antimastriti Varjanam – Last remembrance of Sriman Narayana on the part of the departing soul is NOT necessary once he has undergone Parapathi atleast once in his lifetime. Thought of Brahmam at the time of death is NOT compulsory.
5.Dehavasane Muktisyaath – Moksha can be obtained only on laying off the mortal body. Release from bondage (Moksha) follows immediately on death.
6.Poornaacharya Samashraya – One must undergo SamashrayaNam as soon as possible from a qualified SriVaishnava Acharya. Choose Mahapurna as your spiritual teacher (Acharya)
This is in reference to Sri. Srinivasa Raghavan’s reply to Sri. Krishnan.
I did not know the nine types of relationships that is mentioned, and so I started searching for it. Here’s what I found. I am writing for any newbies like me who also want to know what these nine types of relationships are.
In PERUMAL THIRUMOZHI ANUBHAVAM, Kulasekara Azhvar says that Sriman Narayana is The Supreme Lord and that He alone is the Sharanya who can grant salvation.
In the fifth decad, Kulasekara Azhvar expresses the nine types of relationships that exist between the Jiva (individual Soul) and the Paramathma (Lord Sriman Narayana).
The Nava Vidha Sambandham (nine different types of relationships) that exists between the Lord and the Jeevathma can be identified in these ten songs:
1. Father-Son (Pitha-puthra)
For instance in the verse “tharu thuyaram thadAyEl”, Pitha-puthra (Father-son) relationship is described.
2. Husband-Wife (Barthu-Barya)
Then by the Verse “Kanntarikazvan” the Barthu-Barya relationship is described. Lord Sriman Narayana is the Purshottaman and all the jivas assume the role of wife for this Purushottaman , this is because He is one who, as the head of the family protects the family and we the jivas being dependent on Him are the wives of the Supreme Lord.
3. Protector-Protected (Rakshya-Rakshaka)
By the verse “Meeneku NeenVayal” the relationship of Rakshya-Rakshaka is expressed. He alone is the Rakshakan (Protector) and we are the one who are protected.
4. Physician-Patient (jnyanathru-jnyeya)
In the verse “Vannalarruthu”, the Lord is described as the physician who cures the diseased Jiva. (jnyanathru jnyeya).
5. Sustainer-Sustained (Adhara-Adhera)
In the verse “Vengan Tin kaliru”, the Adhara-Adhera relationship is described. Sriman Narayana is the cause for the sustenance of the entire universe and we the jiva depend on Him for our sustenance
6. Sun-Lotuses (Bogya-Bogthrutva)
Then by the verse “Senthazhale vandhu” Sriman Narayana is described as the Sun and the jiva as the lotus which blooms on seeing the sun. The Bogya-Bogthrutva bhavam is conveyed.
7. Clouds-Grains (Sharira-Atma)
In “Ethannai Van” Sriman Narayana is described as the clouds and the Jiva is described as the grains which depend on the clouds for its growth. Thus it is understood that Sriman Narayana is the cause for the survival of the jiva. Sharira-Atma Bhavam is conveyed by above.
8. Seshan-Seshi
Then by the verse “thokkilangiyar” Lord is described as the Seshan and the jiva as the seshi . The total dependence of the Jiva on the Paramathma is conveyed. Sesha-Seshi Bavam.
9. Owner-Owned
Then by the verse “Ninnayathan Vendi, Swa Swami relationship is conveyed . We the jiva are the wealth and the Lord, is the owner of the wealth.
Thus in the entire decad Kulasekara Azhvar had established the Jivatma Paramathama Sambandham (relationship between the jiva and supreme soul).
If there are any mistakes, please correct me.
July 22nd, 2008 at 12:34 pmDear Smt. Vidya Ramanujam,
Your thoughts ring a bell in me. Till three years ago, I was thinking along those lines till Perumal corrected me.
Simple living, pure thoughts, helping the needy, etc that you mentioned about your family are laudable. All these will lead to Moksham …… but at some point …..after several births… by Hari’s grace (if HE wills).
Hari also says in Gita ”
Partha ..but these are what the materialistic “deham or sareeram” does to satisfy itself of its purposeful existence.
”
Pure thoughts and simple living are the beginning steps in the karma yoga. Already your parents are old now and they are still satisfied just with the begining steps in karma yoga. Your people have to then advance to Gnana yoga to attempt understand the Parabrahman.
Even the four-headed Brahma or Sivan or demi Gods could not comprehend HIM (Gita purports). What about us? Hence pursuit of Gnana yoga as an end by itself will be daunting.
With this advancement in karma yoga, they need to get to Bhakthi yoga. But each and every step of this hiearchical approach is full of failings (remember the the paramapadam game that we play during childhood using a map with snake figures..? we fall and raise….)
Our Azhwars found that the soul cannot even execute the bhakthi yoga perfectly.
Hence, following Sri Hari’s command in Gita, our poorvacharyas (azhwars and Ramanuja and countless perceptors) suggested a simple way: surrender (prappatti).
For this, there is no need to introspect whether one is eligible or mature, etc. Even if one wants to wait till that eligibility is attained, what scale one can use to measure his/her eligibility? In kaliyuga, every thing is tainted (including our brain that is composed of the 5 inferior things which you use to infer your readiness). So one will keep waiting forever to self-certify that he/she has attained grade to approach for prapatti.
A snake did not wait to ask for prappatti when pursued by Garuda. A rakshaha did not wait to purify himself to approach for prappati. Why are you, a human, waiting?
As other enlightened souls in the forum suggested, approach an Acharyan quickly and perform Prappatti. That’s the only way to cross this samsara.
I pray that SriHari’s grace will enable this to happen quickly for your family.
dAsan,
July 25th, 2008 at 2:50 amKrishna
Madam Sri Vi9dhya Ramanujam
Being graceful , grateful and pious attitude are not by teaching but it is an ancestral quality.The practical belief working out well is only to some extent possible for living peacefully in this material world.The money attainment and all are only for the material world but for Athma parisuthi and Athmasakshathkaram one should have an acharya sampantham. Lord Srimannarayana has entrusted the power to Srimath Ramanujar for the attainment of Moksham by any jeevathma (caste no bar for moksham) but should have done panchasamskaram /samasrayanam from their respective acharyan. So if you do not know to seek Acharyan for this samasrayanam programme, after you return from US kindly contact SRIMATH VANAMAMALAI JEEYAR for this glorious function and get samasrayanam. This is only my humble opinion. In this connection you please further consult Swamy Velukkudi Krishnan. He will givie suitable and apt suggestions to you.
Why I am insisting is that in our srivaishnava sampradhayam, a person only with panchasamskaram becomes srivaishnavites without which even if is a vishnu baktha only called as a vaishnavite. That much power to that ACHARYA SAMPANDHAM. Kindly recall the upanyasam of our Swamy on the subject 6 words by Thevapiran(Lord Sri Varadharajar) to Thirukkachchi Nambigal . Even for himself when he finally pleaded to Lord for Moksham, Lord Thevapiran uttered emphatically to seek any acharyan through which only an athma can attain moksham for avoiding any rebirth in this mundane world.
In my case, I too had a belated opportunity for that glorious divine connection. We can even say that after getting samasrayanam we the athma is wedded to Lord Srimannarayana. Samasrayanam is a mangala soothra and a token of acceptance as an elitiblity to reach near paramathma through our sampradhaya Acharya.But after the launchanam of sanga and chakra , we should follow to the best extent possible about the rules as prescribed by our Acharyans. Then only Lord will be happy to give moksham after leaving the sthula sareeram.
Mysincere advice is that you do not miss this opportunity to seek an achryan. You pray for Srimath Ramanujar for getting this golden chance. I had a lot of changes in my mind,action and thinking what not only after samasrayanam.I just cried for this with Lord whenever I feel distress.But after I had a darshan of Srimath Emperumanar(Srimath Ramanujar) at Sriperumboothur and with his blessings I got this golden opportunity. You will also say your experience in future about this.
I pray Lord for you.
Pl pardon me if I say anything wrong.
Adiyen Ramanuja Dhasan.
July 26th, 2008 at 7:35 pmDear Bhagavathas
Adiyen, got this site while browsing which is interesting. This indicates clearly that modern science is at its nascent stage and trying to develop maturity.
Pl. visit the link below which shares scientific evidence of our vedas based on archeological studies:
http://www.kandamangalam.com/new/PhotoGallery/VideoGallery/tabid/296/Default.aspx
Part 2 video shows pictures of dwaraka palace found inside the sea, emblems being followed during the time etc. Part 3 gives picture on coins used during that time and other info.
Adiyen
July 30th, 2008 at 8:12 pmRamanuja dasan
gratifying to note the growth of visitors.and the way people are more and more interested and involved…looks everyone else is better than yours humbly…so it proves KALI SAADHU as sri velukudi swami says often in his lectures how we are lucky to be in kali with such easy path to follow.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:06 pmpoliga poliga poliga….
srimate ramanujaya namaha
I can not say anything else except’ dhanyosmi’ to be born as a VAISHNAVITE,follower of BHAGWAT RAMANUJA and that too during our Swami’s period and fortunate to hear and enjoy his discourses. He is none other than Swami Ramanuja himself of our time. I am staunch beliver in following our Elder’s commentaries and sampradaya.I feel when we accept so many things of our sampradaya which has been profounded by Bhagwat Ramanuja, where does the question arises to get clarified. If one has strong beleif, one should just follow and accept the elders without questioning because they are meant for lokakshema.Our Vishistdwaita siddhantam is not limited only just within our community, it is Universal and one can understand it with ease when we hear our swami delivering upanyasam. Please excuse me if I am wrong , these are my humble thoughts and request to be corrected.
August 19th, 2008 at 10:35 amAlwar Emperumanar jeeyar tiruvadigale saranam
adiyen
srinivasa dasi
Dear Smt.Hema Kuppuswamy
I have a different view.
Up until very recently, I blindly followed our Sat Sampradaya without understanding its inner meanings. After being introduced to the richness of our Sri Vaishnava philosophy by listening to some of the Upanyasams of Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy, I want to explore the hidden meanings that I was unaware of up until now.
People learn by asking questions. I am sure there are a zillion other people like me who do not live in India who would like to get clarifications from such great erudite scholars in person, but are not able to.
Resources like this blog help people like us in our quest to explore our rich tradition and learn by asking questions and interacting with other Bhagavathas.
August 19th, 2008 at 12:21 pmSince I am not able to send this feedback, I am blogging this msg.
Dear Swami, I am a regular listener of Devareer’s upanyasams and really admire the way you render them. The clarity of thoughts in the subject conveyed just amazes me, the matter reaches even a lay person like me who hardly knows anything about SriVaishnavism. Whatever little I know today, it is because of you swami ji. In Dwapara Yuga, Lord Krishna imparted the knowledge of Gita to just one Arjuna and that too in the yudha bhoomi. However, Kali Yuga Krishnan (ie, Devareer) is imparting the knowledge of the Gita to millions of ignorants lilke me. Also, Bhagavan Krishna only uttered the Slokas but devareer is blessing us with its meaning too. This kainkaryam of yours goes to prove your strong will to spread the Sanatana Dharma far and wide in this World. I want to give my mangala anusasanams (as you always say) to you saying “Pallaandu, Pallaandu, Un sevadi sevvi thirukkaappu”. May the Lord bless you with a hale and healthy life for many more years so that you can pass on this treasure to all the ignorant souls on this earth like me” R. Krishnan (sudha.krishnan68@gmail.com
August 19th, 2008 at 5:45 pmsrimate Ramanujaye namaha
Respected Sri Suresh Raj Gopalan,
I completely agree with your thoughts of questioning and knowing things. What I meant to express is when we have the necter in our hand[like nallayaram padi, malavalamamunis commentaries etc] why go searching for churning it?Our purvacharyas had worked hard to give us the easy and condensed form of High Philosophy and meaning of Precious granthas and purvacharyas works. And above all we have our Swami’s spellbounding upanyasam to treasure and understand. Sampradayam is to be kept alive and healthy.These days there is no LOC for debate. Smriti and Shruti are not spared. Qestioning SriRamayan and Mahabharata is something which i feel can be kept out.
Yes questioning for knowing unknown facts are always welcome provided the thoughts and thirst for knowing is like yours.I have read previous wonderful comments and explanations from you here:),thankyou for the same
Alwar emperumanar jeeyar tiruvadigale saranam
August 20th, 2008 at 12:55 pmadiyen
srinivasa dasi
Priya bhagavadhas
Adiyen has humble opinion about your discussions as above and clearcut clarifications by Mrs. Hema Kuppuswamy and adiyen fully agree with her.
As she has rightly pointed out that just because many of srivaishnavites not being aware of the facts of srivaishnavism and the various poorvacharyas divine explanations , God has entrusted the entire work to our beloved great Sri U.Ve Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy who is throughly clarifying everybody’s doubt and elaborately as well as in a comprehensive,simple way presenting poorvacharyas grantha details etc. Then instead of wasting our precious time in deep question, it is better to follow what our swamy preaches to us which is also an authenticated way.Because, he is following poorvacharyas granthas only for our behalf. It is really boon for us.
If we keep on thinking in the questions we will ultimately loose precious timings given by God.
The so called million people if they listen to swamy’s upanyasams atleast from Podhigai (gitaprogramme)all the doubts will be cleared fully.
My humble opinion and also request is instead of deep discussions in questioning session, we the the bhagavadhas can have discussions more about divyadesa peruman’s delightful darshan, his kalyana gunangal, etc and our experience if any, that will make our Lord happy and with his anugraham everything will come to our mind perfectly.
Our sampradhayam methods can be understood from our Swamy’s explanations itself. With that we can sit and think ourselves as to what are the types of god’s gunas and what are our dhoshangal(our sinful activities) and how it can be corrected by our self analysis so as to make our God still nearest to us.
Sorry for any wrong sayings by me.
Adiyen RamanujaDhasan
August 26th, 2008 at 7:59 pmThis is a suggestion.
People like us who live outside India cannot attend these Podhigai (gitaprogramme) Upanyasams that Sri. Kalyani Venkatesh mentioned in the previous entry.
It would be good if these are hosted on the Kinchitkaram website for us to download, or make CDs available that we can order.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:00 pmPlease ignore my previous post.
Looks like the Podigai mentioned is a TV Channel available in Tamil Nadu that airs Swami’s discourses.
I am so excited. Thanks to your post Sri.Kalyani Venkatesh, I found so many discourses online to listen to.
Here are the link for all to enjoy.
http://www.esnips.com/web/VelukkudiKrishnan
http://sangeethamshare.org/tvg/VELUKKUDI_KRISHNAN_GITA_DISCOURSE/
August 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pmSrimate Ramanujaye Namaha
Dear Bhagvadas
I had been thinking about the suggestion mentioned by Sri Gopalan. Few months ago I mailed Madurai Doordarshan asking about the realease of Swami’s CD on Kannanin ArAmudam. They had mailed me saying it would be announced when they get it done. Listening daily is a boon and like a booster for mind to keep the day brisk and it would be a treasure to have it in CD for us and for our next generation too.
Alwar Emperumanar Jeeyar Tiruvadigale saranam
August 29th, 2008 at 10:59 amadiyen
srinivasa dasi
Dear Sri.Kalyani Venkatesh
Can you start a discussion on the appropriate divyadesa Peruman’s delightful darshan, His kalyana gunangal, etc and your experience if any so that we can initiate an appropriate discussion that in your opinion would be useful to all Bhagavathas?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:19 amDear Smt.Hema Kuppuswamy
I recently learnt that the Podigai mentioned in the comments earlier happens to be a Television Channel available in Tamil Nadu that airs Swami’s discourses.
I found sites that carry all the Upanyasams of Swami that are telecast on this Podigai TV Channel online. One of them is eSnips.
My earlier comment dated August 27th is awaiting moderation which contains the actual URLs that I found Googling for it.
In the interim, anyone interested can get to all these Upanyasam telecasts if you Google for it yourself.
The search term I used on Google to get at them was “Podigai AND Gita AND Velukkudi AND Krishnan” without the quotes.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:52 amDear Smt Hema Kuppuswamy,
There is a webaddress wherein you can dowload the audio programme on the said topic “Bhagavat gita”programme of our Swamy, which is being telecast in Podhigai daily.
The url is http://www.sangeethapriya.org in which you should select sangeethamshare.org which will show many list of names for different programmes they have uploaded and you shouldselect the name TV Gopalakrishnan where all the uptodate programme of audio of our Swamy is available. But this download can be taken for the time being. If you still want any sampradhayic type of elaborative upanyasam(which nobody should miss) on the above Bagavath gita topic, you can contact kinchithkaram office ph.091-044-24992728 and e mail “kinchitkaram@yahoo.co.in. You can mail to them and enquire about the details of the cd they are selling.
Adiyen Ramanuja dhasan
August 31st, 2008 at 10:00 pmSrimate Ramanujaye Namaha
Respected Sri Gopalan & Sri kalyani Venkatesh
Thanks a ton for the eSnips and Sangeethamshare link. Am delighted that this blog is helping so many Bhagawadas like us to share,gain enormous knowledge and saving precious time to hear our swamy live when we need his help. My guru [mrs.kodai mami] always quotes that Bhagawadas with similar views and thoughts are ‘ATHMA BHANDU’who are precious than our worldly bandus around us.How true she is…
As Sri Gopalan suggested we can share our experiences about the visits and importance of Divyadesa Emperuman and Thayar.Am yet to complete all the 106 Divya Desams but can try to pendown few interesting experiences and Divine grace during our visits.
Alwar Emperumanr Jeeyar Tiruvadigale Saranam
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pmadiyen
Srinivas Dasi
Why sometimes elders at home do not approve of reading Mahabharata? I have heard people saying that even not everybody will give an upanyasam on Mahabharata, rather they would choose appropriate topics. Why is it so ? would kindly anybody clarify?
September 8th, 2008 at 3:08 pmrespected sir
September 11th, 2008 at 5:35 pmi am an elderly person, not able to move out and listen to sri swamy’s upanyasams. so i have started collecting his cds,to listen to at home. i have just bought a cd of raghuveera gadyam, and to my bitter disappointment, half way through, the cd had no sound. this has happened to my daughter in the US with one of the bhagavath geetha series. she got a replacement. i do not look forwards to getting into an argument about getting my faulty cd replaced, but i seem to have no choice. i wish the marketing department would do a better quality check before putting a cd on sale.
respectfulli
kanakavalli shreeniwas
Srimathe Ramanujaaya namaha!! Adiyen.
Just as Mr Sadagopan, I too have more doubts as to why we should not read mahabaratha at home.When my (late)mother-in-law told that if we read Mahabaratha who mostly depicts about the warriers and war analysis, we should not read that. Can anyone explain why we should not read or is it a fact?
Adiyen ramanuja dhasan
September 14th, 2008 at 10:20 amSrimate Ramanujaye Namaha
Respected Sri Sadagopan, Sri Venkatesh
Emperuman’s Thiruullam wanted Sri Veda vyasar to convey Universal messages in various divine works. Hence he wrote Mahabharata, Vishnu Purana and few other books. We all are aware that human being has to and goes through Rajas , Tamas and Satvika gunas during his life span. Veda vyasar too was going through his Tamasa guna while he was writing this great Epic. Hence it is not recommended for us to read at home. He wrote Sri Vishnu Purana while he was passing through Satvika guna. Hence it is considered very holy and sacred.That is why we all read it with great faith and devotion. I heard the above elucidation from an elderly learned person hence shared.Please pardon me if I am wrong.
Azwar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Saranam
September 14th, 2008 at 1:11 pmadiyen
Srinivasa dasi
Dear Smt.Hema Kuppuswamy, and Sri.Kalyani Venkatesh
If we really have to follow what is said in your posts, none of us should watch any television or movies, or listen to any radio, or read any newspapers or magazines or fiction, for all that we come across in the media today are much more sinister than what we read in the Mahabharatha. How many of us can afford to avoid all this these days?
September 18th, 2008 at 1:33 pmThanks you Mrs.Hema Kuppuswamy for clarifying the doubt about listening or reading Mahabaratha story.
With regard to the reply posts of Mr.SureshRajagopalan, I would like to mention that we cannot take the whole into granted and nobody is prevented from watching tv or movie. The crux of the point is that,at this modern juncture already there are quarrelsome serials are coming and some of us are even forced to listen or watch that and as you said they as much more sinister and all.Ok agreed. But in recent days, though tv is showing so many unwanted stories telecast,we have the right to use out of our god gifted analytical b rain, can definitely avoid watching and prefer an alternative one. In fact in my case before listening swamy’s upanyasam adiyen often used to watch tv serial(only selective), and cinema etc but after listening to Swamy’s upanyasams, I fully avoided that instead I preferred an alternative by hearing Audio CD of Swamy’s so many upanyasams for which time is very short also.
But in Mahabharatha being a great epic wherein as Madam Hema pointed out that because in thamasa nature the epic is written,we avoid that but reading the vishnu puranas out of that. Same is the case of tv also. That is why even our Swamy also used to insist, with the precious panchendriyangal which are given only for the usage but we can spend that for a good purpose. The very word inspired me and so I followed that . Now I am so peaceful with listening good stories of Alwars and Acharyas.
This is only adiyen’s humble suggestion or opinion. If any wrong sayings give it back to me and if good let it goes to God.
Adiyen Ramanuja dhasan
September 18th, 2008 at 6:17 pmDear Sri Suresh Rajagopalan,
Let me narrate one by one in many sittings.In fact I went only 50 out of 108(not for ticking as to how many we have seen as our swamy used say that we should not count the divyadesam we watch but should enjoy and absorb the bliss evenwhile worshipping very few desam ,the gods beautiful thirumeni which will give you definitely a sathuva guna to us in due course.)
There are so many instances I can quote when I wanted to have darshan of God.
Take the case of Srirangam’s beautiful Namperumal who is Prime God.Many of you would have worshipped. Swamy used to say that when we see namperumal his sacred thiruppavalam looks like as if he wants to say something to Bakthas by smiling with a gesture.That is defenitely true. Also to my eye sight, I had experienced that he looks like a Beautiful yuvaraj with a hairlinemush. In so many angle when I viewed him with love and premai,on many occasions, I could see that. Priya Bakthas you also watch and tell me how he looks when you all have a darshan. I thought because he is a Raja and kattilankalaiyana kannan ,so he looks like that.Many of you would have had many experience. Pl putit in this forum. Blissful it will be.
rest in next post.
Adiyen ramanuja dasan.
September 18th, 2008 at 6:57 pmDear Sri.Kalyani Venkatesh
Here are some links to photos of Srirangam Namperumal which are very relevant to your post.
http://ramanuja.wetpaint.com/photo/1800571/Ranganatha+Bust
September 19th, 2008 at 9:43 amhttp://ramanuja.wetpaint.com/photo/1800569/Ranganatha+Face
http://ramanuja.wetpaint.com/photo/1800568/Ranganatha+Adishesha
http://ramanuja.wetpaint.com/photo/1800570/Ranganatha+Moolavar
BTW, if you have an Orkut account, there are a lot more such photos here:
September 19th, 2008 at 10:38 amhttp://www.orkut.co.in/Album.aspx?uid=15711764817370031429&aid=1209754488
Srimate Ramanujaya Namaha
Dear Bhagwadas
Yes Sri Venkatesh, Namperumal is Rangarajan…king of all kings.
Emperuman’s sowlabhyam and karunyam is much more than what we realise and feel. First place HE has given us our Swamy to hear/experience/share and learn.Thanks to this blog and greatful to likeminded bhagwadas penning it here.
Adiyen usually make sure to go to Parthasarathy perumal temple as often I can. For a while was not able to do so and this stayed at the back of my mind wanting to go there asap. By His grace got an oppurtunity to visit Thirumala.I was praying god to bless us with good darshan[ adiyens acharyan always say that we must make a Vinnappan to HIM for good darshan before we start].After reaching Tirumalai,as always got up very early and after waiting we got near the Dwarapalaka enterence.Its not new for anyone trying to have glimplse of Emperuman as much as possible, even while standing away from HIM. Adiyen can remember it was a Friday and was trying to have a look at him. To my surprise Emperuman stood there with WHITE MOUSTACHE exactly like SriParthasarathy of Triplicane and adorned with jewels and Peetambaram . I couldn’t beleive my eyes. I felt being in SriVaikunktham…words cant describe the feeling,it should be felt. When got to go nearer Lord, could see His[Lord Srinivasan] exotic smile for a sec and disappearing. Many could have gone through such experiences and can see what am trying to express.
Will be continued….
Waiting to hear such blissful experiences from our atmabandustoo.
Azwar Emperumanar Jeeyar Tiruvadigale Saranam
September 19th, 2008 at 11:26 amadiyen
srinvasa dasi
Dear Smt Hema,
It is quite true. Emperuman Asritha paran. Avan neer pole that is he is like water which will never go up naturally but come down. Likewise emperuman whosoever it is he will with rejoice come to our mind with elimai,and especially to eliyavargalukku by fulfilling whatever we want espectially when we want to make any type of darshan of any type of daity. That is the speciality of HIM. Avan ulluvar ullaththil eppodhum uraibavan.
You know, yesterday I had actue guiddyness.Went to ayurvedha. Had somemedicines. But I could not ly down sideways feeling so guiddy.Bt I prayed Lord Krishna .What a mirackle HE blessed me. I felt as if somebody is patting me with a peacock feather, but could not want to get up. After a while I slept with whatever the posture I wanted. What a sudden remedy. I never thought so soon I will get remedy.Why I am emphasising here is that this is also one of his kalyana gunadhisangal.Emperuman is not expecting anything big from us. Mere love and clearthinking that he is the one only saviour for us. I was so thrilled. That is why I shared in this forum.Now I am writing this reply with his blessing only because still I am not in a normal position.
See, to our experience we are this much thrilled and overwhelmed means, imagin about Alwars who are real sacrifice to God.Unnum sorum parugu neerum,thinnum vethilaiyum ellam kannane enriruppavargalukku kidaikkum experience solla vonnadhadhu.
Adiyenin anubavangal avvappozhudhu emperumanin thiruvullaththai poruthu thodarum.
Sorry for any mistakes.
Adiyen Ramanuja dhasan
September 21st, 2008 at 7:10 pmSrimate Ramanujaya Namaha
Respected Sri Suresh Raj Gopalan
Thanks a ton for giving us such wonderful pictures of Lord Ranganatha. No wonder azwars got attracted to his ‘Kan Azagu’. Azwar[Namazwar] painted words declaring each awayawam as Lotus- ‘Sen tamarai tadang kan Senganiwai Seng kalam,sen tamarai adigal Sen pon tiru udambe’. While enjoying Emperuman so closely, wonder when we are told not to take pictures of deities in Garbhagraham, how the pictures are being published? This question is purely out of my ignorance that I am typing here[i may be wrong also] no offence towards anyone.
Azwar Emperumanar Jeeyar Tiruvadigale Saranam
September 24th, 2008 at 1:08 pmadiyen
Srinivasa dasi
Dear Smt.Hema Kuppuswamy
I do not know how they took these wonderful pictures. I have come across so many pictures on the web not only ones of Namperumal, but of so many moolavars from multiple Divya Deshams save Thirumala or Alamelumangaapuram. The place I found these pictures specifically were from Adisesh Iyengar’s Orkut account (http://www.orkut.co.in/Profile.aspx?uid=15711764817370031429).
There are innumerable sites that also contain other pictures of Divya Desham moolavars on the web. For example, look at this site:
http://www.srivaishnavam.com/divyadesam108/108tour.htm
There are a lot more sites on the web if only you have the time to browse and search for it.
September 24th, 2008 at 2:12 pmAs you are all aware, Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy is on a tour of the US, Canada, and London.
On September 28, Swamy completed his Boston leg of the Tour.
All of Swamy’s Audio recordings and Presentations at Boston are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/boston-program-details
October 1st, 2008 at 6:07 amDear Sri Suresh Rajagopalan,
Pranams!! Thank u very much for sending the links to view Lord Sri Ranganathar daity in various postures and also the thiruabarangal.
So nice of you and very happy to view those divine photos.Bagvan sakshaath manamatha manmathaha enru our swamy used to mention in the upanyasam. Such an invaluable and immesurable charm and on the face(only) he shows entire kalyana gunas if we see with love. Once again I thank you so much and keep sending such pretty albums.
Sorry for delayed reply. todayonly I browse the blog.
Dhasan
October 1st, 2008 at 11:59 amSrimate Ramanujaya Namaha
Respected Sri Gopalan
Thankyou so much for the link. We are fortunate to hear and not to miss anything from our Swamy, where ever he delivers the lecture, that happens becos of adiyars like you churn and give us the butter to relish. [i dont get much time to browse,the more i try to get out of samsara sagara, the more it takes me in]At the same time, Emperuman’s kripai never lets me down and keeps me linked with Bhagawatas too.
As Sri Kalyani Venkatesh rightly mentioned the pictures of our Periya perumal are of striking and captivating beauty.Once again ty for sharing.
Azwar Emperuman Jeeyar Tiruvagale Saranam
October 1st, 2008 at 1:05 pmadiyen
Srinivasa Dasi
Dear Smt. Hema Kuppuswamy
Here’s a link to get to all the Upanyansams of Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy that I could find on the web:
http://ramanuja.wetpaint.com/page/Discourses+by+Ubhaya+Vedantha+Sri+Velukkudi+Krishnan+Swamy
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 pmAs you are all aware, Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy is on a tour of the US, Canada, and London.
On October 04, Swamy completed his Canada (Toronto) leg of the Tour.
All of Swamy’s Audio recordings at Toronto are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-toronto-program-details
October 6th, 2008 at 11:37 amSrimate Ramanujaya Namaha
Thank you so much Sri Suresh Gopalan for the links where we can hear our Swamy’s Discourses.Am sure many Bhagawadas are enjoying as I am.
October 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pmAzwar Emperumanar Jeeyar Tiruvadigale Saranam
adiyen
Sinivasa dasi
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy is starting the San Fransisco, USA leg of his tour on Thu, Oct 9, 2008.
If you have a twitter account, you can follow all of Swamy’s events here from Thu, Oct 9, 2008 to Mon Oct 13, 2008. The Twitter URL is:
https://twitter.com/velukkudi
The organizers have also promised to post links to photos and audio recordings of Swamy’s here while he is in San Fransisco.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:26 amHere are pictures of Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy’s Richmond Temple visit on his five day tour of Toronto.
http://www.thehindutemple.ca/images/images2008.htm
October 10th, 2008 at 11:46 amHere’s a link to “Discourse in English - Krishna Leela (based on Srimad Bagavatham) - Day1″ of the discourse rendered today (Thu, Oct 9, 2008) by Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy at Fremont HINDU TEMPLE 3676 Delaware Drive, Fremont, CA 94538.
http://saranagathi.org/audio/velukkudi/2008/sfo/krishna-leela-part1.mp3
October 10th, 2008 at 12:38 pmHere’s a link to the “Discourse in English - Krishna Leela (based on Srimad Bagavatham) - Day 2? discourse rendered yesterday(Fri, Oct 10, 2008) by Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy at Fremont HINDU TEMPLE 3676 Delaware Drive, Fremont, CA 94538.
http://saranagathi.org/audio/velukkudi/2008/sfo/krishna-leela-part2.mp3
October 11th, 2008 at 10:02 pmHere’s a link to the “Discourse in English Topic: Hari Nama Sankeertana-Divine attributes and the holy namas” discourse rendered on Sat, Oct 11, 2008 by Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy at Sunnyvale Hindu Temple, Sunnyvale, California, USA.
http://www.saranagathi.org/audio/velukkudi/2008/sfo/nama-sankirtanam.mp3
Here’s a link to the “Discourse in English - Topic: SriVaishnava Lakshana-Basic Qualities of a Srivaishnava” discourse rendered on Sun Oct 12, 2008 by Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy at the residence of Sri. Kailas Ramasamy, San Jose, California, USA.
http://www.saranagathi.org/audio/velukkudi/2008/sfo/basic-qualities-of-a-vaishnava.mp3
October 14th, 2008 at 8:06 amHere’s a link to the “Discourse in Tamil - Topic: Sri Ramanuja Vaibhavam” - discourse rendered on Mon Oct 13, 2008 by Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy at the residence of Sri. Raghunathan Rangaswamy, West San Jose, California, USA.
http://www.saranagathi.org/audio/velukkudi/2008/sfo/sri-ramanuja-vaibhavam.mp3
October 15th, 2008 at 5:19 amAfter a short span of time now only I heave a sigh of relief that I have entered to this blog after having filled up the registration formality. This is what we already thought in our mind for any entry in any site log in principle should be followed. Any way good work by the moderator and thanks for the moderator.
Here I have one doubt which moderator may take into. For display name shal I change my original name or the one that is existing in my profile. Moderator may pl clarify this. Thanks for Mrs.Vidhya for mentioning about the registration in this site blog.Otherwise it would be difficult to enter into this blog.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:38 pmHi Smt Samandhagamani, You can use your original name. I do not see much risk in using your original name. Regards, Admin
October 17th, 2008 at 3:47 pmDear admin authorities,
tk u very much for a quick response with all your site engagements. I have changed to my original name in my profileas done before registration into this blog.
October 17th, 2008 at 4:07 pmDear Mr Suresh Rajagopalan,
Sorry for delated thanks reply since now only I could enter into this forum.
Any way, thanks a lot for submitting swamy’s upanyasam(foreign tour) link which I h ave downloaded. It is so nice. Just as his tamil upanyasam wit vagamrudham so also in english also our Swamy is a english vagamrudhavarshini.That is what I can say. In fact we do not fine time to listen to his upanyasams since we have received a super (ever)gift as THIRUMALAI CDS which is a real divine treasure as far I(so also all the adiyars)am concerned. So since I am listening to thirumalai, only a piecemeal of english lecture I could listen. We cannot fully describel his greatness. Is it not so? But is that the same as the one mentioned in the site as download?Pl clarify that.
Enrum ramanuja dhasan
October 17th, 2008 at 4:14 pmAs you are all aware, Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy is on a tour of the US, Canada, and London.
On Wed Oct 8, 2008, Swamy completed his Seattle (USA) leg of the Tour.
All of Swamy’s Audio recordings at Seattle are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-seattle-program-details
On Mon Oct 13, 2008, Swamy completed his San Fransisco (USA) leg of the Tour.
Most of Swamy’s Audio recordings at San Fransisco (except for “Navarathri-Significance of Sri Lakshmi Worship-English”) are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-san-jose-program-details
October 18th, 2008 at 12:41 pmDear Sri.Kalyani Venkatesh
The URLs I have posted are Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy’s Upanyasams that are available on the web.
I have not yet received the Tirumala CDs that you mention. The last set that I received from Kinchitkaram were the July 2008 CDs of Godha Chatusloki, and Kannanin Karunai. So I would not be able to say if any of these discourses are available in the Tirumala CDs that you mention.
October 18th, 2008 at 1:23 pmDear Sri Suresh Rajagopalan,
Area by area I think the have been distributing the cds. You will also be getting soon. After receiving pl convey your experience of enjoynement over listening to that CDS. OK
Enrum Ramanuja dhasi
October 18th, 2008 at 6:13 pmPart 1 of the Bhakti Yoga Upanyasam that Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy rendered at Toronto, ON, Canada has now been uploaded at http://www.ibiblio.org/ramanuja/srivks2008/toronto/Bhakti1.MP3. Part 2 is yet to be uploaded.
October 18th, 2008 at 9:31 pmSri Rmanujaya Namaha
Respected Sri Gopalan
All these years I used to get the cds in person from Trust office at Bheemsena garden. Since I was unable to go this month,today I called them and requested to deliver the cds at my address. They promised that they would deliver me by next week. Please contact them, if you still haven’t got the cd.
Azhwar Emperuman Jeeyar Tiruvadigale Saranam
October 18th, 2008 at 9:42 pmadiyen
Srinivasa dasi
Part 2 of the Bhakti Yoga Upanyasam along with the Question & Answer session that Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy rendered at Toronto, ON, Canada has now been uploaded at http://www.ibiblio.org/ramanuja/srivks2008/toronto/Bhakti2.MP3.
October 22nd, 2008 at 1:49 pmDear Sri Suresh Raj Gopalan, Much thanks to you for keeping this blog site alive with many useful information. Adiyars like you are the backbone of any efforts we take in our website. As you are aware, the upanyasam CDs of swamy are copyrighted by the trust and hence ideally should not be available for free downloads. While it is not easy to curb such copyright violations, as members we can do our bit by not encouraging such downloads. Apart from copyright violations, an important side-effect of copyright violations is that discourses when available for free will indirectly result in less membership enrollments and hence a bit less kainkaryam to emperman and His adiyars. Hence I request all the members to discourage piracy wherever they come across the same. And thanks once again for spending a lot of your time in keeping this blog alive. Regards, Administrator
October 29th, 2008 at 12:49 pmDear Admin
I wasn’t aware of this or I wouldn’t have posted these details. Can you please delete my posts that provide links to such downloads. I will also remove all the links from the ramanuja.wetpaint.com wiki that I created to track the same from over the web. I can’t remove my comment posts related to the downloads from this blog myself since I do not have sufficient privileges, but you can. Can you please do the needful?
October 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pmDear Sri Suresh Raj Gopalan,
October 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pmThanks for your immediate action. I have deleted the posts regarding the free downloads. However please note that Swamy’s US upanyasams are free downloads and there are no copyright issues on these upanyasams. Hence you can continue to post messages regarding swamy’s upanyasams and their availability. I appreciate and thank you for your understanding regarding this matter.
Here is a YouTube playlist at http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=50480743AB08DF66 that has videos of Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy performing Thiruvaradanam at Sri Sundar Sheshadri’s residence in Santa Clara, CA while on his tour to the US recently.
In the process he also explains the significance and the procedure to perform the same.
October 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pmThanks Mrs Hema, for clarifying my doubts. Actually I was half way through Adi Parva and since my mom did not approve my reading it - I raised this question here as well as in Kinchitkaram question and answer : http://kinchitkaramtrust.org/viewReleasedQuestions.action - question ID 257. The answer was you can read - so I am again at confusion.
And also thanks for those pics of Swami Ranganatha.
Regards
October 30th, 2008 at 10:19 amOn Oct 19, 2008, Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy completed his Los Angeles, CA (USA) tour.
Most of Swamy’s Audio recordings at Los Angeles (except for “Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam - English”) are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-los-angeles-program-details
On Oct 22, 2008, Swamy completed his Phoenix, AZ (USA) tour.
All of Swamy’s Audio recordings at Phoenix are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-phoenix-program-details
On Oct 28, 2008, Swamy completed his Atlanta, GA (USA) tour.
Most of Swamy’s Audio recordings at Atlanta (except for four Upanyasams, viz., “Sri Ramayanam: Sugriva Pattabhishekam - Tamil”, “Sri Ramayanam: Sundara Kandam (Part 1 and Part 2) - Tamil”, and “Sri Ramayanam: Vibhishana Saranagathy and Sri Rama Pattabhishekam - Tamil”) are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL: http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-atlanta-program-details
October 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pmDear Sri Sadagopan
Do you watch any Television at home? Do you read or listen to News at home? Do you read any magazines or fiction at home? If you do, then I don’t find anything wrong in reading the Mahabharatha at home too.
Mahabharatha is one of the only two Itihasa gems of Uttara Mimamsa (Vedanta).
It was written for people to read and understand and learn from it.
Therefore, in my opinion, one can definitely read it.
But that is just my opinion.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pmSri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha
Dear Sri Sadagopan,
Pl find below my humble opinion. If there are any errors, shamikka prarthikirane.
Mahabharatha is called as “Bharata Panchomo Veda:” (fifth veda). Sage vyasa was not happy after writing this great epic because it talks about so many things & Bhagavat Guna. So, he has given a master piece to us- Bhagavatham.
Reading Mahabaratham at home should not be a problem as it involves understanding the epic which is important for every Sri Vaishnava. However,Parayanam is different from Reading (think the confusion is here only). From a parayanam perspective, Bharatam is not entertained because of above reason. Normally, our Sishtas used to perform Sri Ramayana Parayanam at home on a daily basis.
Adiyen
October 31st, 2008 at 7:09 pmRamanuja Dasan - Srinivasa Raghavan
Srimate Ramanujaya Namaha
Respected Bhagwadas
I agree with what Sri Srinivas Raghavan mentioned about Parayana and Reading of great Epic. Yes Sri Ramayana Parayana is recommended where as Mahabharata is always told as stories to kids to know what to do and what not to. Only thing one should always bear in mind is that our purvacharyas and elders never say anything without any reason. We can have our individual views and follow,but the main sampradayam should remain alive.
Azhwar Emperuman Jeeyar Tiruvadigale saranam
November 7th, 2008 at 2:21 pmadiyen
Srinivasa dasi
On Oct 28, 2008, Swamy completed his Atlanta, GA (USA) tour.
The missing Upanyasams of Sri Ramayanam: Sugriva Pattabhishekam (Part-4), Sri Ramayanam: Sundara Kandam (Parts 5 and 6), Sri Ramayanam: Vibhishana Saranagathy and Sri Rama Pattabhishekam (Part 7) have now been uploaded and are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-atlanta-program-details
On Nov 1, 2008, Swamy completed his New York and New Jersey (USA) tour.
Most of Swamy’s Audio recordings at New York and New Jersey (except for “Perumalum Namperumalum (Tamil)”) are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-ny–nj-program-details
On Nov 4, 2008, Swamy completed his Washington DC, Maryland, and Virginia (USA) tour.
All of Swamy’s Audio recordings at Washington DC, Maryland, and Virginia are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/sri-u-ve-velukkudi-krishnan-swamis-washington-dc–maryland–virginia-program-details
Tomorrow Swamy completes his 2008 USA Tour, and he starts his 2008 London, UK tour from Nov 10 through Nov 16, 2008.
November 9th, 2008 at 7:43 amThe consolidated recordings of Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy’s Upanyasams in the US and Canada are available at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/consolidated-recordings-from-the-2008-usa-and-canda-tour
November 9th, 2008 at 2:54 pmLooks like TV9 telecast 50 year old video footages of Tirumala Tirupati Sri Venkateswara Swami Abhishekam. Came across the same on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSpnCnLJ_4s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D90I4zLzI7Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpDipi1Nbtw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trUuBf_ZaXo&feature=related
Kanchi Sri Varadaraja Swami Tirumanjanam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHYGZ1G3V_c&feature=related
Thiruchaanur - Sri Padmavathi Thaayaar
November 10th, 2008 at 5:03 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m-eMsJZHbs&feature=related
Swamy’s Audio recordings at Houston, TX, USA are now available online for all to listen, download and enjoy at the following URL:
http://sites.google.com/site/vedicsevents/sri-velukkudi-swamis-usa-and-canada-visit–2008/consolidated-recordings-from-the-2008-usa-and-canda-tour
Part 2 of the Sri Vishnu Puranam(English) discourse is yet to be uploaded.
November 19th, 2008 at 9:38 amSwamy’s audio recordings at London, UK have also been uploaded just now - accessible from the same URL.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:26 amThe discourses given by Swamy in Doordarshan for 15 minutes on Gita, are they available as recordings?
December 5th, 2008 at 4:24 pmNo, not yet. The rights for that lie with the Doordarshan.
December 5th, 2008 at 4:50 pm